The Naturals Key to Success (your social network)

So i came up with a theory about why naturals seem to do so well with women. Keep i mind this is an opinion post...

Ive seen personally examples of this and have also seen posts or heard people talk about it. My cousin for instance seems to have women seek him out, and i could never understand why.

Way back in my AFC days i chalked it up to him maybe being more attractive physiclly then the average guy, later i decided he just "had it" and others didnt.

Now i understand his real power....his social skills, particularly in the long run. Im not talking about BL, or his words...im talking about his long term actions. Essentially what it amounts to is his long term building of his social circles.

Most naturals are people who have grown up thier whole lives getting positive results. They essentially start thier social lives earlier and take it head on. They invest a ton of time and energy early on to build it up, and then keep it up to maintain or achieve more growth within these circles.

Alternatively for alot of us, or the AFC, they have comparitively invested small amounts of time in thier social lives, started later off in life, and do not have as many friends and circles to interact with.

Take my cousin again as an example...hes been extremely social since as early as elementry school. As early as middle school he was going out with groups of people to the movies or a friends house. By the time he was in Highschool he was dateing more seriously and had already established a few different circles of friends.

Moving onto college hes got a large group, already has experience with building his social circles up, and has the skill set to meet and bring new people into his circles.

After college he maintains an active and social lifestyle, going to the gym (the social hangout of the new mellenium), away on the weekend to visit people. He almost never sits around and does things alone. If i had to guess id say he spends at least a solid 40+ hours directly engaged in social activity.

So thats an important aspect of it...Naturals build up thier social circles very large, often times being able to divide it into many sub circles.

Another important part is that they become a predominent figure in all thier circles. They typically either have a stronger frame or choice to socialize with people whom have a weaker frame then them. This allows them to be the leader and alpha within these circles.

So they have large circles that give them many social oppurtunities, and they lead all these people which proofs them through the roof when out with them.


The idea here is that if you want to have your game headed in the most natural direction possible start working immediatly on meeting new poeple, pulling them into your social circle, and making sure you maintain an alpha status withing these groups of people. Keep building it up and it will help immensly.

I would have to agree with this. You also keep in mind that these social networks that naturals have contain attractive women. Those attractive women know attractive. So not only are you social proofed with your friends when you go out, but you have a high propinquity (defined below) with lots of attractive females. Being a natural, I personally do this all the time. I just went out to eat sushi with a girl I've known a while and she asked if she could bring a friend. I accepted and now have been talking to the friend, who has then introduced me to another girl. It's a cycle that really doesn't end.

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Hey Guys,

Here's one of my threads on Social Proof game, This is pretty much where I concentrate all my efforts nowdays. I have a system in my life to try and capture the idea of social proof so that I can always use it when I sarge. I'll try to give some examples of this in some of my posts.

Social proof is essentially a means to generate Pre-selection, and Propinquity.

Pre-selection was a form of attraction that I feel was adequately outlined in a psychological test covered last year by Benedict Jones. The theory behind Pre-selection has been around since the mid 1900's and argueably before, however I feel this test sums it up more than well enough for our purposes.



The Test
Benedict Jones Test 05.02.06 participants first viewed eight pairs of male faces and indicated which face in each pair they preferred and how strongly they preferred it. Following this, participants viewed a slideshow where they saw the same pairs of male faces, but in which a woman was shown looking at one of the men in each pair with either a happy expres​sion(i.e. smiling) or a relatively negative (i.e. neutral) expression. After the slide show, participants repeated the initial face preference test.




Results
For female participants, a paired samples t-test comparing the change in mean strength of preference for target faces in the happy and neutral conditions showed that the increase in preference for faces that were smiled at by women during the observation phase was greater than that for faces that were looked at by women with neutral expressions.

So we can see from the test that women generally prefere men that other women are already attracted to. As certain emotions can be ambiguous to see from a distance or without understanding the context; a harmless smile will often be perceived by others as a signature of attraction.

Therefore the more people you speak to in a room and leave feeling good about themselves with regards to you the more pre-selection you will generate. This could be done by anything from going around taking pictures of people, to getting everyone to dance, to buying everyone a drink, to just saying hi to everyone you meet.

However Social Proof is even more powerful as it also generates Propinquity, and this is a form of comfort.

Preselection = Attraction
Propinquity = Comfort

Attraction + Comfort = Lay

(Awsome formula eh? Who Said I was crap at maths.)


Propinquity is the term used to describe a physical proximity, special bond, or some form of kinship between things. Psychology views this is one of the leading triggers in interpersonal or social attraction. It roughly relates to being close to someone else in some form or another. This could be in physical terms, i.e you live in the same area as someone or not so physical, you both belong to the same association. The closer the proximity the higher the propinquity. For example those living on the same floor in a building have a higher propinquity than those on different floors.



In this Diagram we can see that A and B would both be attracted to C as C lies within both of A and B’s Circle. Likewise C would be attracted to both A and B and would have the option of choosing either. D is the outsider of the group, and therefore holds the lowest levels of attraction to any of the other parties.

The propinquity effect is the tendency for people to form friendships or romantic relationships with those whom they encounter often. In other words, relationships tend to be formed between those who have a high propinquity. It was first theorized by psychologists Leon Festinger, Stanley Schachter, Kurt Lewin and Kurt Bach in what came to be called as the Westgate studies conducted MIT university in 1950
Propinquity can be more than just physical distance. For example, residents of an apartment building living near a stairway tend to have more friends from other floors than others. Propinquity also applies to Social groups. These could consist of class mates, friendship social circles or even work colleagues, and explains the tendency for teachers to date teachers, members of the police force to date each other and so on.
In 1956 Alan C Kerckhoff conducted a study on residential propinquity, around 70% of the married couples lived within 20 blocks of their partner before marriage. This seems obvious when you think about it. Yet it is something people don’t really think about.

It seems strange to say that just being close to somebody generates attraction, yet if you notice the amount of IOI’s you get if you see a girl every morning on the same train, or from someone who lives in the apartment block opposite you. You will almost always begin to say hello every day. Obviously this isn’t the be all and end all, however it is the start. Social proof enables us to generate this regularly creating this initial spark whenever we vybe with a room showing that the room is our social circle and that they are part of it.

It is powerful because it is a passive form of game, When run correctly it enables you to get opened. My wing and best friend Jim Stark used this to close his incredibly hot current girlfriend who is a slim blonde model type and at least 6 inches taller than Jim. She actually asked him on the night.

"Who are you? Why does everyone seem to know you?"

The fact that it requires little outer game and instead primarily relies on having fun and possesing a sold Inner game frame to work from, makes it something that people can get to grips with easily without jeapodising their own personality.

It has been the basis of my game since I started in the community and is in my mind the reason I have done as well as I have so quickly. Though I am always looking to make myself better. I have seen past tutors and wings of mine stare at me as with only social proof and a few simple afc lines I have managed to close girls that blew them out previously. Then watched them completely alter their game to focus on Social Proof to amazing effect.

You want the magic pill? It doesn't exist. Social Proof is the next best thing.

AFC AdamLondon

Thanks for posting this, it helps support my claim. Of course when im talking about the social groups naturals have formed i assume/its given that they include a fair amount of attractive women. basically you get proofed so many different ways by these large social units that they do all the work for you when it comes to attracting a chick.

However my point was that this is the hardest part for us to replicate as it takes alot of time, years for most, to develope...so better start now.

It does take time, but not as much as you'd think. Because usually naturals hang out with other socially savy people. So your whole group meets new people and introduces you to them. My wing has started this in the past few months and now lives the life you described, because his friends introduce him to people and then he meets people too. I def. suggest it for anyone wanting to go towards a more natural game.

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going to the gym (the social hangout of the new mellenium)

It pisses me off that this is true.

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going to the gym (the social hangout of the new mellenium)

It pisses me off that this is true.

haha i know seriously...i guess my biggest downfall is im a practical person, if i goto the gym its to workout, not to stand around and talk. Alternatly if i goto a bar its to be social not to stand around drink to chest pretending to watch TV lol.

However i loathed Myspace when i didnt have my own and swore up and down id never make one, i wasnt gonna confrom to the mass's...blah blah blah....now i love myspace its turned out to be a very useful social tool. Maybe when and if i start going to the gym i will find it to be much the same, a good tool for networking.

yes no doubt social circle is very important. Honestly one of my biggest regrets in life has to be the fact that i was never really social i never really liked to socialize i wish i could go back and change that. I kinda find it harder to socialize in college everybody just comes gets their shit done and leaves right when class is over...

Ka wrote:

haha i know seriously...i guess my biggest downfall is im a practical person, if i goto the gym its to workout, not to stand around and talk.

More than that, it annoys me when someone starts doing curls on the squat rack, does one bad set, and then proceeds to talk to his buddy for the next half-hour.

Yeah, ive learned this also, with my FR report last night but in not so much detail though.