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| Subject: Lovedrop Lay Report Pt. 2 Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:53 am | |
| Lay Report: Lovedrop & his wing pull two 9s (Part 2 of 2) (...continued from yesterday...)
We talk for a few more minutes and we get more giggles. We seriously believed we had to leave so we stand up to leave and I can feel that the girls want to come.
I said, “Look, I live two minutes down the road. It’s a nice place, follow us in your car and when we get there if you don’t feel comfortable, just drive away.”
They follow us home and come into the house.
At this point there is a great vibe between the four of us. First, we went into the living room. There is a big fluffy white shag rug in there that feels so good to your feet it makes you feel like you are walking on a cloud. The girls go to walk on the rug and I say “Please no shoes on the rug.” They take off their shoes and I can tell that, in that moment, from my girl there is a moment of hesitation but then she does it.
Once their shoes are off they are in love with the feel of the rug on their bare feet. I turn on the projector and put music videos on. We are all dancing to Justin Timberlake and Nelly Furtado’s “Give it to Me.” (For those who do not know the importance of removing the shoes, FYI trust me it’s an important step, I didn’t write this just for the hell of it.)
At this point I need to emphasize the importance of the vibe. If your place does not look clean as if a woman lives there, then women will feel uncomfortable as opposed to feeling a relaxed, fun, and comforting atmosphere. Is there harsh lighting in her face or are there candles, colors and shadows?
Have a good mix of chill vibe music on your playlist. Not just one genre. I’ll have a playlist of say Zero 7 then it will go to 2Pac, Fiona Apple, Daft Punk, Bob Marley, Bloc Party, Eminem, My Morning Jacket. Create an atmosphere in your house. When it comes to lighting and music, experiment and figure it out so that you create a fun and comfortable vibe, not a sleazy player vibe. I want people to enter that space and feel good.
My wing gives his girl “a tour” of the house. The set is comfortable enough to be split up. At this point I am getting deeper into conversation with my girl and we are actually connecting on another level. I noticed that that she is very smart, witty and fun. We are having a lot of fun together.
The point I’m trying to get at here is that qualification has a higher meaning then merely faking more and more interest. What if she actually feels your growing interest because she is cool and you do have high standards? It should be such a natural and genuine feeling.
By this time I had already managed to sneak off to my room, light candles and stash condoms in and near the bed. There is a pool table in the kitchen area right outside my room. I asked her if she wanted to play a game of pool. She said yes. I got the balls racked up on the table; meanwhile we are in this fun conversation on evolutionary psychology. I say “Oh check out this book.”
My door has been open this whole time. She has been in my room already to use the bathroom and has seen the vibe in the room. She is already comfortable with the room and it was not forced on her in any way. In my room there’s the kind of vibe that under those circumstances most people would prefer to be there. The candles are glowing.
During the course of our conversation I mentioned what a great book I have been reading “The Evolution of Desire” by David M. Buss. I recommend this book to you as well. I walked back into my room to show her the book, she followed me and we sat on the edge of bed and continued to talk about it. The conversation itself was the centerpiece of the interaction, the game of pool was merely a pretense for this. In fact we hadn’t even grabbed pool cues yet, we never actually played any pool.
Notice that I deliberately left the door open; I can always close it later. Think about how creepy and obvious it would be if I closed the door as soon as we entered the room together.
While we were talking I crawled across the bed to grab something to show her my wood carving or my rosary or whatever – I don’t even remember. This created a feeling like I was moving away (comfort and value) at the same time creating a space on the bed for her to crawl up next to me if she chose to. I did not motion her to do so – the conversation was still the center piece.
This is critical time when a guy might start to get needy or pushy. I knew I needed X amount of comfort building and the last thing I wanted to do was get pushy and paralyzed in the bottom of the 9th.
In that moment I felt I was free from desire. This is because I live a life of abundance and I really do feel comfortable, relaxed and not-needy. The feeling should be real.
After we talked for a while I did a compliance test. She was still sitting on the edge of the bed and I was showing her something and told her “Come here let me show you,” and motioned next to me on the bed. She got the same look of hesitancy as when she took off her shoes, so I said to her “Don’t worry I’m not going to make a move.”
The sub-communication when I said this wasn’t a begging frame like, “Please sit next to me I promise I won’t do anything.” Instead it was a not-needy frame more like, “Don’t worry I am the least needy guy on the planet.” As if I live such a rock star lifestyle that I have to hire bouncers to keep naked chicks out of my room.
As this point we continued talking and I number closed her as a more direct statement of intent. I timed this to coincide with one of her DHVs. At the time she shows value to me such as her fun and witty conversation, I reward her with growing interest by getting her number. I said, “Actually hey, can I get your phone number?”
Notice that normally in the field I would say, “Give me your number and we’ll meet up after.” I would lead her to give me her number. And instead in this case I acted a little extra AFC and said, “Hey, CAN I get your number? I want to hang out with you again.” I calibrated this so that it would show her extra interest and make the A3 come off more. See how she is “winning me over,” how I am “realizing” that I better get this girl’s phone number because subtext: I definitely want to see her again.
Like she’s not gonna give me her number – she’s in my bed! So I don’t have to lead her firmly through it and instead I can feign a little insecurity that maybe she won’t give me the number because secretly I know that she will. Get it?
I want to emphasize that this was not calculated, it was calibrated. Practice time makes me flow with more calibration, but it is still genuine in the moment and not planned out in advance. Those moments just benefit from my improved intuition as time passes. This is part of the Zen of the game for me.
While in conversation I take her hand and rub the spot between her thumb and palm and I squeeze her finger tips. The conversation is still the center piece. The touching is only a subtext and it feels normal and natural. Next I give her my hand and continue the conversation and she naturally rubs my hand the same way I rubbed hers. In this lazy way I lead her through kino escalation.
There is a yin and yang to comfort. The yang is that she can count on me to do my job as a man – to escalate naturally and comfortably and to lead her through it. I will be fun, things will happen – and it’s not her fault.
Whereas the yin is that she can also trust that I will be unreactive. That I am outcome independent and that if she ever experiences discomfort I will stop and I will be comfortable with it. I won’t be pissy, pushy, needy, or angry. And furthermore I will then escalate naturally again as if it was no big deal (It’s not.)
Once she feels these yin and yang energies coming from me, she realizes she is in control of the process and things tend to go swimmingly.
My girl initiated the next level of kino! She starts stroking her finger tips over my forearm. At this point it is mutual escalation and we continue our conversation. God she is so hot! 10, 20, 30 minutes could pass as we talk and lazily stroke each other with our fingertips. I’m not rushing her because I’m not in a rush.
Both of us are touching each other and touching is escalating as the conversation continues. The hands are always moving or rubbing. You can increasingly touch anything as long as your hands are always moving. For example, if you cup a women’s breast too early on, you are creating resistance. She will be forced to reach down and move your hand. It would be creepy. Whereas if your hand sweeps down across her body, rubbing her arm, rubbing her leg, and passes over her breast, she will experience some of the arousal of that but there will be nothing for her to push away. She becomes complicit in the extra compliance you have built into the frame. She gets turned on. So this sort of “breast passing” movement again starts very slight and non-threatening, almost non-existent at first, and then continues to escalate naturally as we both get more aroused.
Somewhere in this time is when I first kissed her, which was no big deal when it happened. I pulled her in for a hug, rubbing her back as she rubbed mine, then I kissed her and we slowly started making out. At one point I stopped kissing her and looked her in the eyes. She said, “It’s almost like you’re asking me for permission,” and I replied, “I’m not.”
I am writing my own thoughts here on S1 and S2.
As you are rubbing her body and as it escalates, she will become aroused. As she becomes aroused it can create a conflict inside of her. One part of her wants to have sex and it is aroused – this is her sexual nature. And there is another part of her that is an interrupt mechanism trying to stop the arousal. For me, beating last minute resistance is simply a matter of which part of her mind you are energizing more. As long as you keep her aroused, that side of her psychology will win out over the interrupt mechanism.
For example, the girl in this case, as long as I was actively rubbing her and keeping her aroused, she was turned on and into the escalation. I could see the struggle within her but she was aroused and it was escalating. But if I stopped touching her, then the interrupt mechanism would immediately take over and she would start to get up, put on her clothes, etc. If I touched her again quickly enough and continued the arousal, she would go back into the escalation.
Call it plausible deniability, or that she was trying to “throw herself out of state” or anti-slut defense, or whatever, she obviously has conflicting emotional drives. This actually gets down to the very core of sex itself: that one gender limits access to replication resources and the other competes for access to said resources. This is how sexual selection works! And how will females limit access to their replication resources if there is not some emotional mechanism designed to do exactly that?
I would expect the variables to change from girl to girl, culture to culture, based on amount of attraction, qualification, comfort, etc, but the equation is basically the same – with many expressions.
I’m not going to write some porno obviously about what happened next. In retrospect I wish I hadn’t slept with her because I want to keep her around as a girlfriend, so I hope I didn’t screw it up. We’ll see. Worse yet, my wing did the GF thing with his girl (he held back from sex because he wants to keep her) so when the girls talk, he will look like a big sweetie in comparison to me. I hope I didn’t screw it up with this girl by hooking up with her so fast. I don’t want her to think of me as a one-night stand.
One other interesting lesson from tonight: The party could have been total bullshit the whole time. None of the people we invited actually showed up. Therefore, I might as well have just made up the party when we pulled the 2-set. When pulling, every night is a “party” at my place from now on. It’s just another way to oversell the pull which results in better numbers. | |
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Juice PUG Apprentice
Number of posts : 944 Age : 40 Location : StPetersburg, Fla Reputation : 0 Registration date : 2008-03-17
| Subject: Re: Lovedrop Lay Report Pt. 2 Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:24 pm | |
| Yeah, I see this.. most of the time men do start off with this kind of escalation with no prior knowledge of what theyre doing! | |
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