Grape Tripp's Vault Member
Number of posts : 151 Age : 31 Location : Michigan Reputation : 0 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: The Basics Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:24 am | |
| Many PUAs know the tools and methods, and yet most of us don't know the basic outline to successfully pick up a girl.
You want to: - Demonstrate Higher Value - Build Rapport - ??
What else?? I'm going through hell because of this. I don't want to hear about specs like bantering, cold-reading, story telling. Those are tools and methods. I want to know as do other PUAs the basic outline.
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nuked Tripp's Vault Member
Number of posts : 333 Age : 35 Location : McCordsville, Indiana Reputation : 0 Registration date : 2008-03-23
| Subject: Re: The Basics Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:30 am | |
| Check you PMs I have something for you. | |
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Grape Tripp's Vault Member
Number of posts : 151 Age : 31 Location : Michigan Reputation : 0 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: The Basics Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:56 pm | |
| Alright so I broke the attraction down into a few steps:
1. Opener (Sexual & DHV) 2. Neg 3. Cold read 4. DHV - Neg (Share a commonality, and reject her for being too similar) 5. Qualify 6. Isolate 7. Escalate Kino & Rapport 8. Physical Attraction (K) 9. More physical rapport 10. Isolate again 11. Physical Attraction (F)
and then i found repeating steps 9 and 10 will give amazing results.
Also, some things to maintain the WHOLE time are: - Peacocking - DHVing - Body language - Tonality - Eye contact
This is just what I found, are there any comments on this?? | |
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L.A. Tripp Admin
Number of posts : 4766 Age : 51 Location : Evansville, IN Reputation : 19 Registration date : 2008-03-14
| Subject: Re: The Basics Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:27 am | |
| - Grape wrote:
- Many PUAs know the tools and methods, and yet most of us don't know the basic outline to successfully pick up a girl.
You want to: - Demonstrate Higher Value - Build Rapport - ??
What else?? I'm going through hell because of this. I don't want to hear about specs like bantering, cold-reading, story telling. Those are tools and methods. I want to know as do other PUAs the basic outline.
Thanks. The nutshell version: -Kino Escalate (YES from the start) -DHV -Build Rapport -Kiss Close/Number Close -Build more Rapport and Attraction for the -F Close | |
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Grape Tripp's Vault Member
Number of posts : 151 Age : 31 Location : Michigan Reputation : 0 Registration date : 2008-03-25
| Subject: Re: The Basics Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:46 pm | |
| I'm reading the Venusian Arts Handbook and I really like the M3 method.
1. Attract + 2. Rapport = 3. Seduce
Wait, I got more into just now. xD
Attraction 1. Opening 2. DHV 3. DHV - Accepting Girl (Leads to Comfort)
Comfort 4. Conversation - Rapport, Cold reading 5. Connection - The Comfort Kiss 6. Intimacy - Leads to Seduction
Seduce 7. Foreplay (Physical Escalation) 8. Last Minute Resistance 9. Sex | |
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L.A. Tripp Admin
Number of posts : 4766 Age : 51 Location : Evansville, IN Reputation : 19 Registration date : 2008-03-14
| Subject: Re: The Basics Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:14 am | |
| The M3 model is FANTASTIC and I personally recommend that everyone read the Handbook upon getting into PUA, because it does cover ALL the basics, giving you a foundation. From there, you should add things like David D's C&F and David Shade's seduction material. However, having said that, M3 gives you a model of how pick up to seduction works, but also realize that things in that model can be tweaked, such as you can and SHOULD start kino escalation immediately upon talking to the target. Or, as close to immediately as you can. For instance, a hand brushing her arm, or a hand on her upper back or even the small of her back. You don't have to leave it there long, just touch her to see if she accepts it. I do that stuff a lot. Normally just a touch that lasts a second or two will tell you if she's accepting of your touch in general. Then, as I'm physically moving while talking, I'll put an arm around her and release right away, or touch the small of her back, leave it there 2 or 3 seconds, then release, and gauge her response. If she doesn't reject me in any way, I will push the line and leave my hand or arm on her or around her even longer. Eventually, you'll get to the point of basically holding her, and pulling her close, and it's just been slowly escalated to that point. | |
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