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PostSubject: My early notes Openers, Negs, & Routines   My early notes Openers, Negs, & Routines I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 20, 2008 1:19 am

A funny thing happened today, I was cleaning out a drawer at work and I came across my notepad notes from when I first started doing everything. I was almost laughing at the notes I took and what openers I choose but they worked, and I'm going to share them with you. These are pretty common openers but as I remind you with canned material its not what you say but more so how you say it. Some of the notes are random but you'll get the idea.

These came right off my cheat sheets that I kept in my back pocket in field for months.

J. Smooth Blindfold Opener
"Hey guys let me get your opinion on something...Insert False Time Constraint....Would you let anyone you hardly know blindfold you? (Don't wait for an answer) Get this...my best friend xxx was downtown and met this girl. They clicked and had a good time hanging out and stuff. Well she wants to take him out for a romantic evening but the HITCH is she wants him to wear a blindfold so he doesn't know where he's going. Would you do this?" (Get everyone's opinion)

If yes- You'd let some guy you barely no blindfold you, I see what kind of stuff you're into. Smile OR What if he ends up abducted by aliens or joins the circus or something? LOL

In no- Where is your sense of adventure"

The others are common so I'm just going to list them...if you need the exact wording PM me or ask below.

*Text Message Breakup
*Who Lies More
*ESP Test
*Spells Opener
*Fight Outside
*Dental Floss Opener

If a guy is in the set approach the guy...

(Guy) Nice Shirt Opener
"Hey man where did you get that shirt...I use to have a shirt exactly like that. Then my past-girlfriend borrowed it, and I've never seen it since. It's like I have to buy two of everything, you know what I mean? Laughing

How do you guys all know each other?"

*Pay attention to the guy, and be his friend. Ignore the target*

I Stacked with...

*Best Friends Test
*The Cube
*5 Lies
*Girl Masturbation Factoid
*Question Game
*Girlfriend Airport Story DHV
*Cold Reading

A2 Notes...

*Choose a target and neg her
*IOIs- reinitiates conversation, touches you, asks name, builds comfort & rapport, eye contact, touches hair, giggles, gives compliments, asks if you have a girlfriend, or introduces you to her friends.
*Throw and Go your negs
*"How do you all know each other?"
*Pick a routine or DHV story

Negs to Use...
*Nice Dress...those are popular these days
*Where's your off button?
*Its like she poops words...
*Nice nails...are they real? Well they look good on you anyways...
*You know why you and I would never get along...We're too much alike
*You know why you and I would never get along...we'd argue all the time and I'd win
*You're too much of a nice girl for me

Other things in my notes...Multithread...False Time Constraint Frequently, Look for the non-verbal hook, Turn to as she hooks but not too soon, 3 SECOND RULE, Calibrate, approach at an angle, look for IOIs.

I just had this and a few notes about winging for when I was with my buddies like what accomplishment intro I'd use for them. I didn't really have a lot for A3 because I was just starting out. This is like 10-15 minutes of material and that's all I was worried about starting out with. Typically, I'd just hang around after this as long as I could, or I'd wimp out and eject because I didn't know what to say. This is all I was concerned about knowing when I opened, and I re-read these notes it seemed like 100s of times before I'd go in the club.

Peace Guys
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PostSubject: Re: My early notes Openers, Negs, & Routines   My early notes Openers, Negs, & Routines I_icon_minitimeFri Aug 22, 2008 6:59 am

Where could I find a list of all the Acts?
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jpz109 wrote:
Where could I find a list of all the Acts?

What do you mean by Acts? I'm not sure that I understand your question. Do you mean Attraction Switches, Openers, or what?
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Like A2, A3, etc.
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jpz109 wrote:
Like A2, A3, etc.

That's the M3 Model as developed by Mystery & Venusian Arts. This is in the Venusian Arts Handbook and some other literature. Let me give you the basic model though. As mystery would say, "I'm Mystery, it's my method, hence Mystery Method!"

Attraction Phase
A1 - Open (The man approaches a set, runs an opener, and reaches the Social Hook Point)
A2 - Female to Male Attraction (The man demonstrates high value, while simultaneously showing disinterest in his target. The woman respond by giving off indicators of interest)
A3 - Male to Female Attraction (The man baits the woman to become more invested in the interaction, and then he rewards her efforts with his indicators on interest in her)

Comfort Phase
C1 - Conversation (The couple begins a conversation and grows from a sense of comfort and rapport into feeling a connection)
C2 - Connection (Both parties feel a vibe that "it is on." Kissing occurs. This phase may last over the course of several dates)
C3 - Intimacy (Now at a seduction location, heavy making out ensues and that couple moves into the bedroom)

Seduction Phase
S1 - Foreplay (The couple begins the physical escalation towards sex.)
S2 - Last Minute Resistance (This is the point of no return before sex occurs.)
S3 - Sex
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JSmooth wrote:
jpz109 wrote:
Where could I find a list of all the Acts?

What do you mean by Acts? I'm not sure that I understand your question. Do you mean Attraction Switches, Openers, or what?


I think he is meaning the routines you listed 5lies,dental floss etc...Just a guess...
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That's the M3 Model as developed by Mystery & Venusian Arts. This is in the Venusian Arts Handbook and some other literature. Let me give you the basic model though. As mystery would say, "I'm Mystery, it's my method, hence Mystery Method!"

Attraction Phase
A1 - Open (The man approaches a set, runs an opener, and reaches the Social Hook Point)
A2 - Female to Male Attraction (The man demonstrates high value, while simultaneously showing disinterest in his target. The woman respond by giving off indicators of interest)
A3 - Male to Female Attraction (The man baits the woman to become more invested in the interaction, and then he rewards her efforts with his indicators on interest in her)

Comfort Phase
C1 - Conversation (The couple begins a conversation and grows from a sense of comfort and rapport into feeling a connection)
C2 - Connection (Both parties feel a vibe that "it is on." Kissing occurs. This phase may last over the course of several dates)
C3 - Intimacy (Now at a seduction location, heavy making out ensues and that couple moves into the bedroom)

Seduction Phase
S1 - Foreplay (The couple begins the physical escalation towards sex.)
S2 - Last Minute Resistance (This is the point of no return before sex occurs.)
S3 - Sex

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thebig wrote:
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