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PostSubject: Keychain’s KJ Challenge!   Keychain’s KJ Challenge! I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 20, 2009 8:53 pm

- The Challenge of Kings…

Defining a Keyboard Jockey
KJ is the acronym for the phrase ‘keyboard-jockey’. He’s the kind of guy who knows Magic Bullets back to front, can quote entire passages from the Classic Writings and impresses his friends at lair meetings with impressions of his favourite Gurus!

Aside from their encyclopaedic knowledge of all things Pick-Up, perhaps their most defining characteristic is that they have absolutely no game. They can lecture for hours, give forum advice ad nauseam but they never go out, they never approach and they never get laid…their game sucks!

The Evolution of a Keyboard Jockey
It’s actually very easy to turn into one of these gentlemen. Here are a few of the pathways to KJ-hood:

  • ‘I’m just going to take a couple of weeks/months/years to internalise the material before I start going out, you know?’
  • ‘Wow, this dating science stuff is amazing! I just want to go home and read up on it all and get it down before I go out.’
  • 'I used to have good game, got a girlfriend and dropped out of game.
    Since we broke up, my ego-protection won’t allow me to go out and approach again. I’m afraid I’ll be rusty and won’t live up to my own self-image as a ladies’ man.’

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If you’re slipping down the KJ path of Mansize Kleenex tissues and scented lotion, consider the following points:


  • Perfectionism is our enemy. So many times we want to understand everything and get it all straight in our head before we go out and talk to girls. We feel like if we have everything clear and in order then we’ll just ace our interactions every time. That attitude is complete nonsense! Without direct experience with reality (i.e., talking to real girls) none of the information you read and study will be of any use to you. For one, without regular, focused time in-field you will lack the context in which the principles and routines operate. We may think we understand attraction but until we have the experience of repeatedly eliciting it in the women we meet, we have no idea what attraction is. Secondly, all the knowledge in the world will not get us laid unless we approach! If we sit at home masturbating over the latest post by our favourite Guru and never get out and meet girls then we’ll just be another loser with no results, no girls and no game.


  • Reading lots of information clogs our thought processes and slows us down. We have so much theory and information running through our minds that we sink into analysis paralysis – a state of complete inertia where all normal social functions are severely impaired. Good information timing is crucial. Theory should be used to plug the holes in our game and help us develop our weak areas – if we can already open and tease but always get flaky numbers,read up on qualification! We mustn’t waste time reading about high level social circle mastery and super-tantra-orgasm techniques if we can’t even approach a woman – the road to mastery is to work on one or two aspects of game at a time and really focus on them until we have them down.


  • Believe it or not, people did get laid before dating science was invented. I’m pretty sure my parents didn’t meet and fall in love because my dad attended a breakthrough comfort seminar or knew the finer points of rapid escalation. Chances are your grandfather never wore NewRock boots, goggles, black nail polish and didn’t practice his customised routine stack in a mirror. Get out there and approach. If you’re truly hopeless and have no game, write down an opener, a transition, a couple of simple attraction routines, go to a bar or club and open every set you can find. As you hit sticking points: wash, rinse and repeat – a little specific theory, some practical routines or conversation ideas and then back out to meet girls. Look to the theory in extreme moderation and only when you specifically need it!
Keychain’s KJ Challenge

KJ’s, I challenge thee!

  • For 30 days, there shall be no more pick-up related reading, listening or forumising!
  • For 30 days, thou shalt go out and socialise. Either:

    - go out every night to a bar for at least one hour, approaching at
    least three sets!
    - Form the Approach Habit and approach a single girl every day!
    - You may skip a day/night of approaches for the following reasons:
    taking a day to go shopping to improve your fashion (see Keys on Fashion) or participating in a social, lifestyle-enhancing activity (i.e., salsa class).
After that, you’ll be a changed man. You’ll have actually begun the process of getting real, tangible results in your quest to improve your social skills. After accumulating these reference experiences, and only after, you can come back to the material to read up on areas in which you want to improve.

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Unrelated photo of hot girl for general inspiration.

I regularly ‘fast’ from seduction/self-help learning materials for periods of time and advise it for those who feel burned out and stale, at a brick wall or overloaded with information. Also, if you still suck after a year ‘in the community’, this is a strongly advised course of action.

Guys, I know it’s fun to read this stuff and know how much courage it takes to get out there and submit yourself to the learning process. But great riches await those who dare to really commit to improvement

"Genius is an infinite capacity for taking life by the scruff of the neck."
Katherine Hepburn

Very Happy Has anyone out there tried a similar 30-day challenge or ‘KJ Cure’? If so, I’d love to hear about your experiences – leave a comment!

Good luck!

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PostSubject: Re: Keychain’s KJ Challenge!   Keychain’s KJ Challenge! I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 20, 2009 11:49 pm

I 'm not into mr strauss , but I did try the R* S* D* 30 day challenge, for 15 straight days, I learned so much infield than reading ebooks and I thouht w overloaded with the info comming in fast.I lived in nyc earlier this year when I did this.
in one week I was really godat daygame thanks to AWAKEN nyc who tok me out 2 times an saw him do it and took me out personally,he even got me a date that week, I was so new and afraid, I guess sef eseetm plays a part.anyways at nightgame after I met sinn,saffron,doc holliday,el topo, entropy in boston weeks before and sat in a seminar, since they were in town running shop and a friend of mine was there taking that .

I went out and failed alot , very frustrating and at times I cried out of frustration on the sidewalk...
then I stay there and at times got a girl chasing me in the venue and didnt go back to the set and she left disaponted or she give up me not calibrating being a "challenge" .
A gorgeous stripper from Minesota really into me and seeking rapport after I didnt want a dance from her yet ran dhv's and basic MM on her...she was like who are you?!! I kept sending her off to go make money and she would stay and want to hang out with me after her shift..I get so nervous and walk out of the venue and she just sat on my table clueless staring at me like WTF just happened ?....

I also encountered numerous times girls want to bounce at my place, beautiful girls OMG!!! but was in the ghetto or wasnt fixed up te give me some european number and saw it as a fucup and lost easy lays like it. Keychain’s KJ Challenge! Icon_sad

a 15 mintute daygame pickup which she got in a cab and we went to my apt building and cause I was embarresed I sent her home from my apt and she got pisssed.stupid shit over and over...

other times when I had a norway ballet dancer into me running daygame at night and was with awaken while he broke up w his exGF , We hang out as freinds ,pickup became automatic,

He is the BEST I've seen at daytime pickup in nyc, I tried to model him but I cant he is too unpredictable. And does anything infield and makes it work.lol.

I didnt mention SNL's opportunity? A TON! saw girls at 1 or 2 am coming in, and have guys all around them and they would be standng I be talking to her get AMOGD' all the time! ,seeing girls pick up guys right at closing time while a group of 5-6 guys where surrounding her ad she was either drunk or horny deciding who to take home, seeing them grab the random guy and gt in the cab with them...gansvort SNL's in nyc..ALOT of lost opportunity to make you cry.
A had a former VA instructor who i became close friends with took me out in my Bday and we went for after hours and its was soo on....venue changed ... hotties man from out of town, I fucked it up by the end when she couldnt dance anymore and I didnt knwo wtf to do when her feet were hurting and I wanted to go sexual and venue change to thier hotel, Imiscalibrated somewhere or shwed too eager for sex and they took off..my friend managed to game a hot girl on the pole dancing at after hours and he took off...I saw the girls from the other venues that ngiht I got blwoned out there as well but didnt repone , just didnt know what to do and just danced and became social and try to game the bartenders GF.

Yes,thouse were my experiences and Im embarassed by them...I learnd alot.

Now, I feel I can close easily and wouldn't mind doing somethng cool or challenge.
think I would improve...

I did up to 15 days and it made big difference, of course it was solo game.
I don know if I could survive 30 days straight here in miami ? ? ?

Foruming is necesarry just to write down what you did as a journal.
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PostSubject: Re: Keychain’s KJ Challenge!   Keychain’s KJ Challenge! I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 21, 2009 1:38 pm

I found that the best way to break out of my KJness was to drop $250 and get a 4 day 1 on 1 with our man Tripp. Keychain’s KJ Challenge! Icon_wink
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PostSubject: Re: Keychain’s KJ Challenge!   Keychain’s KJ Challenge! I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 21, 2009 2:03 pm

Good post Keychain Smile thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: Keychain’s KJ Challenge!   Keychain’s KJ Challenge! I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 21, 2009 6:58 pm

Thanks Cro! Smile

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